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Pseudo class 3 with underbite

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by , 11-13-2009 at 12:35 PM (786 Views)
My orthodontist told me that he would fix my pseudo class3 underbite by pulling both sides of both the bottom and the top row of my teeth in and I then I think he said after he does that then he will pull both the bottom and the top row of my teeth upwards. Does that even make sense to anybody? Does that even sound like a good treatment for my situation?
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  1. Anny's Avatar
    Honestly is sounds painful

    Did you get more than one opinion? Sometimes different professionals have different methods. Good luck and keep us updated!
  2. bluram's Avatar
    Yes I did but the that was a year before I got my braces. I decided to go with my current one because a friend told me he was good.
  3. Sunny's Avatar
    Sounds interesting! For mine, my ortho pulled my lowers back and my uppers forward ... it took a while, but it worked. I've seen this done for other people and it's worked well also. This is done after the teeth are aligned. Then with powerchains on all teeth, class III elastics are used to do the job. Class III elastics run from the upper first molar to the lower canine on either side.

    You can ask another ortho or two for a consult, to hear what they'd recommend.

    Good luck!
  4. bluram's Avatar
    Thanks Sunny, that sounded painful. He was going to give me class 2 elastics in my last visit, but he said my teeth were moving well so i didn't need it. My next visit he said that he would put brackets on my back teeth to move them in because I guess he said he put a special bracket to raise it up first. I'm just curious did you get treatment when you were a teen?
  5. Sunny's Avatar
    My treatment hasn't involved any pain at all ... it's been amazing to watch the progress and not feel it!

    How were your upper teeth moving forward without elastics?

    My treatment started when I was 47 and was due to jaw problems related to an impacted upper right canine, edge to edge bite (which became class III when my alignment was corrected), two crossbites and a variety of alignment issues.

    I started working for my ortho two years ago ... so it's been an interesting journey.
  6. Sunny's Avatar
    I've just realised you wrote 'class 2 elastics' ... which is the opposite of class 3. They're for overbites/deepbites ... the opposite of underbites.

    Where do your top and bottom teeth meet when you do a 'normal' bite? If you're not sure about a 'normal' bite, the correct way is to put your tongue to the roof of your mouth, and push it back on the roof of your mouth, pushing towards your throat ... now bite. This is your 'true' bite.
  7. bluram's Avatar
    Yes he said class 2 elastics. But he said I had a psuedo class 3 underbite. Before I started my upper 2 front teeth were covered by my bottom row of teeth, now after like 6 months of treatment my 2 fronts are over my bottom ones. When I do a normal bite my top teeth goes over my bottom ones. What was your original class? You said that when your alignment was corrected your bite became a class 3. Is that the goal of your treatment?
  8. Sunny's Avatar
    My bite was edge to edge.

    The goals of my treatment were to bring my impacted upper right canine down, bring my bite to a class I and fix the gaps, cross bites and crowding. All has been done ... although in the process my bite opened.

    We're almost at the point of accepting that this may not be correctable, so my ortho is making sure I have good chewing surfaces and as good a bite as possible. It's way past time my treatment was over!
  9. bluram's Avatar
    By that do you mean that your treatment is on-going or are done with it?

    "We're almost at the point of accepting that this may not be correctable, so my ortho is making sure I have good chewing surfaces and as good a bite as possible. It's way past time my treatment was over!"
  10. bluram's Avatar
    Did our facial profile or facial structure change any?
  11. Sunny's Avatar
    It's still ongoing ... but should finish early next year ... very early next year.

    My facial profile changed a little, due to my upper teeth now bitting a little forward of my lowers ... in class I, where they should be, whereas they used to bite behind my lowers in a class III. My chin used to be more prominent than it is now ... although barely noticable, as my problem was dental.
  12. bluram's Avatar
    Ok Sunny, thanks for your input.
  13. Stephanie's Avatar
    I just found yourg blog... talk to your ortho and lets hope he well versed in the surgery and not the typical ortho that doesn't want to be botehred...
  14. bluram's Avatar
    I talked to him my last appointment and he said I wouldn't need it that he can move my jaw without surgery. But I'm thinking I am too old for fix appliances to move my jaw...his assistant told me he'd had success with one person in particular but because of his case it took more than 4 years for is jaw to be fixed. I already set up a consultation with a surgeon to get another opinion. I think you might be right about him not wanting to be bothered.
  15. Sunny's Avatar
    The jaw can be changed in some ways without surgery, until it fuses ... which is usually around adolescence. After that, only surgery can change the jaw or it's position.
  16. jessicabouchard's Avatar
    I thought that when you were an adult, your bones already stop growing so there is no way to change jaw bones position without a surgery. And for me it sounfd you will be for a very loooong time treatment (=expensive$$$) I think you should go for surgery, as I will do this summer! I dont know where you are from, but me im 100% cover for the surgery. So you should verify, you will save a lot of ime and money for your treatment! Its just my opinion, im not a pro, but wish I coudl help
  17. Sunny's Avatar
    For many people the bones fuse when they're in their mid to late teens, but like most things this can vary by a few years either way. Your ortho can work this out by running some tests.

    Surgery is fine for people who have suitable insurance, but not all people do ... and not all insurance plans cover jaw surgery. You're correct that if a person needs surgery, having the surgery will save treatment time and also ensure better and more stable results.

    You're very lucky to have 100% cover!
  18. bluram's Avatar
    I am not sure but I think my insurance will cover my jaw surgery as medical but i'll have to pay a deductable. But i will still talk to my ortho and ask him what my jaw situation is... if its not fused yet... and i already set up consult with an oral surgeon so I'll see.
  19. jessicabouchard's Avatar
    Hola, usualy its 100% cover (in Canada) you just have to pay beetween 1500$ and 2000$ fees.
  20. lemon tree's Avatar
    ^ hi Jessica,

    I was just wondering if you are from Quebec and if so, if this may just be covered in Quebec or through supplementary private insurance you might have?

    I didn't think that oral surgery was covered in Canada. I know that when I had my wisdom teeth pulled, my private insurance covered 80% but I had to pay the remaining difference.