I don't trust my orthodontist.

[Franklin]

Hi everyone! I'm back!

I didn't have my teeth extracted as originally planned. I had to rethink things. I honestly don't trust my orthodontist.

He is making finical decisions that I should be making. He refuses to allow me to be treated with Invisalign because of the cost. Excuse me but I am the person who is paying him. I should be the person who makes this decision.

He also does not allow any patients who get extractions to have Invisalign. I don't know why he would do this.

He originally stated that I needed 4 bimolars and 4 wisdom teeth removed. I had another meeting with him about that. He later told me my wisdom teeth are not a problem. Why would he originally tell me to get them removed when there was NO need to remove them? He referred me to an Oral Surgeon who I had issues with last year. I met the surgeon for corrective surgery. The surgeon was in my insurance's network and the insurance was going to pay for surgery. the surgeon would not all the insurance to pay for surgery so I had to find another doctor. I brothers me that my orthodontist referred me to a shady surgeon.

My orthodontist also said that my teeth are damaging my jaw. He said that my jaw may break. Is this possible?

I'm 21. I continue to experience growth. Although he has labeled me as non-growing. I still have a baby face. How much negative impact could extractions do to me?

[ToonKid]

If he's giving you lemons, and you're not comfortable, consult another Orthodontist. It's very important that you gain your trust with your orthodontist and discuss a treatment plan you both agree on. About the jaw problem, I don't see how teeth can do such unless there's a deformity or wisdom teeth.

[abbaker]

Yikes. This sounds sketchy all around. I hope you have other orthodontists in your city!

[Franklin]

I met with someone before this orthodontist. He was trying to give me a 2 year plan without taking X-Rays. I know my teeth are not perfect, but they are not extremely bad.

[Sassee]

I agree with everyone else. You have to trust them. If you don't then go somewhere else. You don't need the stress of this being right or not on top of the stress of having to get braces. Just find someone else that makes you feel comfortable.

[Franklin]

I agree with everyone else. You have to trust them. If you don't then go somewhere else. You don't need the stress of this being right or not on top of the stress of having to get braces. Just find someone else that makes you feel comfortable.

They are not entitled to my trust. Secondly I should care about if they are wrong and make things worst or make me pay for unnecessary treatments.

[Sassee]

They are not entitled to my trust. Secondly I should care about if they are wrong and make things worst or make me pay for unnecessary treatments.

I am confused by your reply.
Of course you should care about them making a mistake and making you pay for unnecessary treatment, thats what i mean by you need to trust them.

[catgyrl]

Franklin-

I don't mean to be rude, but it seems like you have a lot of trust issues / doubts about this whole process, given your comments here and in your other thread called "I don't want extractions". I think it might be best for you to deal with those issues before coming here and asking for everyone's opinion or advice that you don't plan on taking, anyway.

Unless you're planning to do the orthodontic work yourself, you absolutely must trust whoever is doing it for you. There comes a time when you have to surrender and trust they're doing the best for you. You will never know until you try.

[Franklin]

As I have said they are not entitled to my trust.

May someone please answer my topic's questions?

[catgyrl]

People have replied to your questions, including Dr. Tam, in the other thread regarding extractions. You just aren't getting the responses you're looking for. I think Dr. Tam summed it up perfectly in his response below:

It sounds as if you have some issues with the trusting professionals. It may have been because of past experiences, but the key is to find a professional that you trust this time around. We have many patients who have 4 premolars taken out and opt to have their 4 wisdom teeth taken out at the same time. They actually prefer to go through extractions once, rather than having to go more than once. They are usually under anaesthesia, but not the same kind of sedation as general in the hospital.

Our patients come to see us with various ideas about treatment. Unfortunately, there are limits to what we can do because of biology and with Invisalign, sometimes experience. I would be more worried about orthodontists who change their treatment plans simply to suit your requests, when it may not be in your best personal interest.

Good luck with your search!

[Franklin]

What are you talking about? No one has answered my questions in this topic. My questions are health and treatment related.

[lightskinnnn38]

Why would he originally tell me to get (wisdom teeth) removed when there was NO need to remove them?
This question needs to be asked to your ortho as to why these need to be removed and what would happen if you don't.

My orthodontist also said that my teeth are damaging my jaw. He said that my jaw may break. Is this possible?
Again, should be asked to your ortho.

How much negative impact could extractions do to me?
This sounds like you are just scared of having extractions, I mean who wouldn't be?? I'd be nervous as hell if I had to have 4 or 8 teeth taken out!! But I have seen dozens and dozens of people who have had extractions for their treatment and their final results look amazing. It is up to your ortho to know what treatment plan is best for your teeth and you need to fully trust that your ortho knows what he is doing before removes any teeth. Some people need extractions and some don't (like me) but your ortho should know what is best for your situation.

This site might help you if you have any more questions or concerns about extractions: Getting Teeth Extracted for Orthodontic Braces. Tooth Extractions for braces.

[lightskinnnn38]

Or if anything get 2nd or 3rd opinions from other orthodontists until you can find one that can answer all of your questions and concerns.

[Franklin]

Why would he originally tell me to get (wisdom teeth) removed when there was NO need to remove them?
This question needs to be asked to your ortho as to why these need to be removed and what would happen if you don't.

My orthodontist also said that my teeth are damaging my jaw. He said that my jaw may break. Is this possible?
Again, should be asked to your ortho.

How much negative impact could extractions do to me?
This sounds like you are just scared of having extractions, I mean who wouldn't be?? I'd be nervous as hell if I had to have 4 or 8 teeth taken out!! But I have seen dozens and dozens of people who have had extractions for their treatment and their final results look amazing. It is up to your ortho to know what treatment plan is best for your teeth and you need to fully trust that your ortho knows what he is doing before removes any teeth. Some people need extractions and some don't (like me) but your ortho should know what is best for your situation.

This site might help you if you have any more questions or concerns about extractions: Getting Teeth Extracted for Orthodontic Braces. Tooth Extractions for braces.

That doesn't really answer my questions............... Did you read the entire post or skipped to the questions?

[lightskinnnn38]

What are you talking about? No one has answered my questions in this topic. My questions are health and treatment related.

You just said that no one answered your questions. So I replied to ALL of the questions you posted. It sounds like you aren't taking advice very well.

[ports]

Hi everyone! I'm back!

I didn't have my teeth extracted as originally planned. I had to rethink things. I honestly don't trust my orthodontist.

He is making finical decisions that I should be making. He refuses to allow me to be treated with Invisalign because of the cost. Excuse me but I am the person who is paying him. I should be the person who makes this decision.

He also does not allow any patients who get extractions to have Invisalign. I don't know why he would do this.

He originally stated that I needed 4 bimolars and 4 wisdom teeth removed. I had another meeting with him about that. He later told me my wisdom teeth are not a problem. Why would he originally tell me to get them removed when there was NO need to remove them? He referred me to an Oral Surgeon who I had issues with last year. I met the surgeon for corrective surgery. The surgeon was in my insurance's network and the insurance was going to pay for surgery. the surgeon would not all the insurance to pay for surgery so I had to find another doctor. I brothers me that my orthodontist referred me to a shady surgeon.

My orthodontist also said that my teeth are damaging my jaw. He said that my jaw may break. Is this possible?

I'm 21. I continue to experience growth. Although he has labeled me as non-growing. I still have a baby face. How much negative impact could extractions do to me?

Invisalign with extractions would be fine if it was wisdom teeth. But i think Invisalign is a poor choice for closing large extraction gaps. That's probably why, since it can't exert force the same way rubber bands would.

As far as the surgeon being shady.. they're not supposed to cut on you unless if it's necessary. You know.. medical oath and all.

If you have wisdom teeth pushing the wrong way, yes it can cause issues with your jaw. When my wisdom teeth were in, they randomly one day started causing really bad pain in my right jaw. I couldn't bite down, or chew food. I went to a dentist and then an oral surgeon and had them removed asap.

As far as the surgeon not allowing insurance to pay. There's something wrong with your story. If the surgeon is "in network" on the plan, than he has already agreed to accept payment from that insurance company for that service. Either you misunderstood, or are lying.

There.. now all of your questions are answered.

Go find an orthodontist you like and get your teeth fixed. Or, continue to have misaligned teeth and deal with it.

[Franklin]

Invisalign with extractions would be fine if it was wisdom teeth. But i think Invisalign is a poor choice for closing large extraction gaps. That's probably why, since it can't exert force the same way rubber bands would.

As far as the surgeon being shady.. they're not supposed to cut on you unless if it's necessary. You know.. medical oath and all.

If you have wisdom teeth pushing the wrong way, yes it can cause issues with your jaw. When my wisdom teeth were in, they randomly one day started causing really bad pain in my right jaw. I couldn't bite down, or chew food. I went to a dentist and then an oral surgeon and had them removed asap.

As far as the surgeon not allowing insurance to pay. There's something wrong with your story. If the surgeon is "in network" on the plan, than he has already agreed to accept payment from that insurance company for that service. Either you misunderstood, or are lying.

There.. now all of your questions are answered.

Go find an orthodontist you like and get your teeth fixed. Or, continue to have misaligned teeth and deal with it.

My orthodontist first old me to get 8 teeth extracted including the wisdoms. When I met with him again he said the wisdom teeth did not need to be removed because they won't shift my teeth, but at first he told me to get them removed. He already told me to do something that is not needed.

There's nothing wrong with my story about the oral surgeon. He refused to allow the insurance to pay for my corrective surgery last year. He demanded to be paid in full before the story. Him and his staff were strongly pressuring me to get loans.

I not lying. Nothing was misunderstood. I spoke to this surgeon and his staff many times about this issue. They told me no regardless they were in my insurance's network. My insurance told me to file a complaint against him.

Nope! Not all of my questions are answered. I don't understand how my teeth can break my jaw. I am also still experiencing growth and wants to know how that can affect my treatment.

[Bekster45]

It really sounds like you need to seek other opinions.
If I didn't trust the provider(s) I was seeing, I would not hesitate to get at least one more opinion. There are very few dental professionals on this site and what you need is a professional to answer your questions which should include seeing previous xrays (or taking new ones) and should be able to answer your concerns. However you have to keep an open mind and be prepared for them giving you answers you may not want. If one has told you that if you don't get teeth pulled, your jaw may break, as that question to another provider. I'm not sure how that could occur but I'm not a dentist or orthodontist.