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    Braces VS Invisalign

    Hi Everyone,

    I had my braces on two months ago and just hope to expedite my treatment.

    I saw Invisalign and regretted of having braces. Just to check with everyone out there.

    Is there any results difference between Invisalign and Tradition braces after the treatment?

    The straightened teeth looked the same??? As i saw people after Braces, their teeth look very nice, neat and straight well as for invisalign that i saw through the Internet is not as nice.

    Which treatment is longer???

    Can any kind soul please advise me.

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    Braces Vs Invisalign

    Went for an initial assessment today with my orthodontist who gave me the option of fixed ceramics or Invisalign braces. The major difference is the price HKD$40,000 for Invisalign and HKD$20,000 for ceramics.

    Invisalign also takes longer, its all computerised at the beginning of your treatment, a course of braces are made for you in advance so no adjustments can be made as you go along. You swap to a new brace when the teeth have moved into place with the current brace (hope that makes sense!). With ceramics the adjustments are done manually by the orthodontist at your monthly appointment, so it can be more personalised therefore quicker. He said the average time for ceramics is 9 months compared to Invisalign 12 months.

    Also initially the treatment with Invisalign takes longer as all your moulds etc have to be sent to California and made to order, apparently this can delay treatment by about 2 months.

    Plus Invisalign is not completely invisible in all cases it depends on the texture and smoothness of the teeth to start with.

    As I haven't started any treatment I cannot speak from experience with any of this information only pass on what I was told in my consult today.

    At the moment I'm thinking I will probably choose ceramics too, mostly due to the cost! Anyone else have any comments/thoughts on this as I'd be interested too?

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    I have just finished the invisalign program and would have to disagree.....I had an intial assesment from an orthodontist for my MINOR crowding and he recommended 2 years with braces at a cost of $6500.00 CDN or a dentist told me 6 months with invisalign for $3500.00. I went with invisalign. It is not for everyone, depending on the severity of your condition. I never had delays in my treatment and have been finished for over a month now and could not be happier. At 32 I could not imagine going 2 years with metal braces....I feel alot of orthodontists, who are not trained with invisalign will give you no option but metal braces. The one I saw would not do it for less than 2 years...No matter how minor the problems were. MONEY HUNGRY! I am done and would do it all over again in a second! 6 months, PERFECT teeth and very little discomfort. Also, I had several comments about how unnoticable they are.

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    I got braces in my late 40's and wanted invisalign, but it was never an option due to the bite problems my teeth have.

    Instead my ortho offered ceramic, gold, metal or ibraces (lingual) brackets. The ceramic, gold or metal were the same cost and the ibraces a little more expenses. Time frames for all four was the same.

    I choose to go with ceramic and metal, and love them. The ceramic look amazing with coloured ligatures and you can colour co-ordinate, or for discretion my ortho will use white coated wire ties. He also has white coated archwires for people who really desire discretion.

    My ortho is a trained invisalign provider, but will only use invisalign for people requiring mild correction. He's found that about 50% of his invisalign patients choose to finish with brackets, as the refinements they request are not able to be done with invisalign. He still believes in offering invisalign, due to the advantages the system offers for some people.
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    I have seen results of invisalign correcting rotation, crowding, and gaps in teeth and they do work well. Also, my dentists' dental assistant told me that invisaligns were cheaper, I didnt pay the full price because my mother in law works for my dentists, but I did pay 1600.oo. I think it depends on the dentist you go to, there is a dentist here that does teeth for different prices for families who cant afford to get braces or certain procedures. Also, the universities offer free dental work and discounted prices for braces, ect. as the students use the practice in clinicals and stuff. The only thing about metal braces that I have seen, is some staining on the teeth and depending on the type you get, some metal brackets are really big and noticeable. I dont know why they have the staining, maybe they didnt get their teeth bleached afterwards or address that issue. I have also seen some really neat looking brackets, I guess they call them ice, or invisable braces. There is alot of options out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelbabiez9700 View Post
    The only thing about metal braces that I have seen, is some staining on the teeth and depending on the type you get, some metal brackets are really big and noticeable. I dont know why they have the staining, maybe they didnt get their teeth bleached afterwards or address that issue.
    The staining is due to not cleaning your teeth properly and although having brackets on your teeth may make this a little more challenging, it's still only necessary to clean your teeth two or three times a day to prevent this.

    Some people do have soft enamel that is more prone to colour change problems and the same with bacteria issues. This means that some people will have more cavities than others, due to the bacteria in their mouths reacting to food left behind, whereas for most of us this takes a long time to happen, which gives us plenty of opportunity to clean it away.

    If you have staining on (in) your enamel, tooth whitening/bleaching will make this appear worse. Tooth whitening affects the surface and does not allow for mottling of the teeth.

    Bracket size varies very little between manufacturers, the more obvious difference for a person who's staring at teeth, is that some teeth are smaller than average and some are larger than average. Also the colour of a persons teeth affects how the brackets shadow on them and how they appear. The slightly larger brackets are the more comfortable ones, as they spread the pressure on the insides of your cheeks and lips more, making them easier to get used to and they cause less irritation.
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    Interesting post, and responses. In the UK, I was originally quoted 18 months and 5,000 pounds ($10,000 dollars) for ceramic braces. After moving to Canada, my dentist recommended Invisalign and quoted $5,000 dollars and 10 months, plus refinement.

    Needless to say, I went for Invisalign. It's not ideal for everyone but my teeth are a good case. I have experienced some staining on attachments, but my dentist supplied me with bleach and I've been able to correct that relatively easily.

    Invisalign is still a serious commitment, and in some ways more so than metal braces. It demands that you have the self-discipline to cut down on snacking, and brush and floss when you eat. But honestly, to my mind, that's worth it - especially as I work in a public role where I'm teaching and training and my teeth are on display all the time.

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    i was also told that invisalign would be quicker treatment for me at only 6 months of treatment i cant complain.

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    Talking Braces vs. Invisalign

    Depending on how bad your teeth are, Invisalign may not work for you. Invisalign usually works well for people with mild problems. If you have some major issues, you are probably better off with braces.

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    Invisalign is a type of brace, but not all braces are Invisalign :).

    Invisalign is a removable appliance that moves teeth. The way teeth move with removable appliances is different than with a fixed appliance (braces). Generally difficult movements with Invisalign include extrusions, rotations greater than 30 degrees, translations, and torquing.

    If you have an Invisalign provider familiar with the physical and biological requirements with tooth movement, and one that understands orthodontic goals at the level of a specialist, there should be no difference between treatment results with Invisalign and braces.

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    Invisalign vs braces

    My orthodontist proposed three options to me for my spaced out teeth. They were traditional braces, ceramic braces, and Invisalign (in that order). He said traditional braces work best. The reason he had Invisalign last was the cost and the fact it would not help my overbite.

    In the end I chose Invisilign because of the positive experiences I've read about and heard about from friends i know that have had it. It is costing me $5000 total, $2200 up front and the rest in monthly payments.

    I go into detail of my experience including before pictures on my blog at My Invisalign Blog

    I think many people would find it helpful

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    You regret having braces? I regret having Invisalign! Well, I don't regret it. I really liked Invisalign but I would have been better off starting with regular braces. I started with Invisalign but switched because it couldn't do everything regular braces could.

    Don't feel bad at all. You ended up with the right type of braces, whether or not you knew about Invisalign or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_P View Post
    You regret having braces? I regret having Invisalign! Well, I don't regret it. I really liked Invisalign but I would have been better off starting with regular braces. I started with Invisalign but switched because it couldn't do everything regular braces could.

    Don't feel bad at all. You ended up with the right type of braces, whether or not you knew about Invisalign or not.

    I do not regretting getting Invisalign at all. I cannot imagine having to deal with braces instead. Braces never give you the option of taking them out and prevent you from eating some types of food. Not to mention braces are way more noticeable than Invisalign and being an adult braces would be embarrassing. Few people notice my Invisalign and those that do know about it don't think about it when they see or talk to me. In fact I think sometimes I think I look better with them in then when they're out.

    Read more on my blog if you're interested. My Invisalign Blog

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    Grbaseball it's great that you're happy with your decision to have invisalign, but that did require you to make a tough decision and that's not to correct your bite. For many adults wearing bracket braces, making decisions like that is not an option ... or a choice they'd be preferred to make.

    I've had braces for quite a long time ... I started with ceramic and now have metal ... and most people I worked with and see never mention my having braces and it amazes me how many people after four years still don't realise I have braces.

    For me there is definitely nothing embarrassing about having braces, in fact having ortho treatment is a huge statement about how important you consider the correction and health of your jaw joints are. Many of our patients, who aren't suitable for invisalign and are unsure about wearing bracket braces, quickly adjust when they realise that the majority of people aren't interested in their mouths or what they're doing orthodontically.

    Eating with bracket braces is generally much easier than with invisalign. This always sounds strange when we tell our clients this, but it's obvious why. With brackets, you can eat almost everything ... in fact for most people ... we can eat everything. With brackets you can also eat anytime ... no having to remove anything or planning eating around the optimum time for having invisalign aligners in place.

    Invisalign requires much more discipline than brackets do, but it's fantastic what many people are able to achieve with invisalign.
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    It isn't entirely accurate to say that Invisalign cannot correct bites. There are a very small number of experienced Invisalign doctors who are able to correct class 2 and 3 malocclusions. These types of treatments will require the use of elastics and plastic buttons, but certainly can be achieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny View Post
    Grbaseball it's great that you're happy with your decision to have invisalign, but that did require you to make a tough decision and that's not to correct your bite. For many adults wearing bracket braces, making decisions like that is not an option ... or a choice they'd be preferred to make.

    I've had braces for quite a long time ... I started with ceramic and now have metal ... and most people I worked with and see never mention my having braces and it amazes me how many people after four years still don't realise I have braces.

    For me there is definitely nothing embarrassing about having braces, in fact having ortho treatment is a huge statement about how important you consider the correction and health of your jaw joints are. Many of our patients, who aren't suitable for invisalign and are unsure about wearing bracket braces, quickly adjust when they realise that the majority of people aren't interested in their mouths or what they're doing orthodontically.

    Eating with bracket braces is generally much easier than with invisalign. This always sounds strange when we tell our clients this, but it's obvious why. With brackets, you can eat almost everything ... in fact for most people ... we can eat everything. With brackets you can also eat anytime ... no having to remove anything or planning eating around the optimum time for having invisalign aligners in place.

    Invisalign requires much more discipline than brackets do, but it's fantastic what many people are able to achieve with invisalign.
    Thanks sunny, it was definitely a tough decision to not correct my bite. However I was told that even with 2 years of metal braces and rubber bands there was no guarantee my particular bite could be corrected without surgery.

    I'm not sure I follow the piece about planning when to eat around the optimum time for having Invisalign in place. I eat whenever I want whatever I want... when it is time to eat I take them out. I do not have to plan my meals at certain times or anything.

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    Sorry I didn't explain the eating part properly.

    Invisalign takes more discipline, as you need to drink and eat with your aligners out ... so and you should wear your aligners for a minimum of 22 hours a day, so you have to work your eating/cleaning around those three hours. With bracket braces you can eat whenever you want, as there's nothing to remove.

    The other important factor is drinking/eating foods with acid in them. You should wait 30 minutes before brushing your teeth, but you can (and should) rinse your mouth many times with water. With aligners, if you put them in while you still have the acid from the foods on the enamel on your teeth, you risk damaging the enamel. With bracket braces, there's nothng to touch the enamel, so this risk is removed.

    I hope that makes it clearer.
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny View Post
    Sorry I didn't explain the eating part properly.

    Invisalign takes more discipline, as you need to drink and eat with your aligners out ... so and you should wear your aligners for a minimum of 22 hours a day, so you have to work your eating/cleaning around those three hours. With bracket braces you can eat whenever you want, as there's nothing to remove.

    The other important factor is drinking/eating foods with acid in them. You should wait 30 minutes before brushing your teeth, but you can (and should) rinse your mouth many times with water. With aligners, if you put them in while you still have the acid from the foods on the enamel on your teeth, you risk damaging the enamel. With bracket braces, there's nothng to touch the enamel, so this risk is removed.

    I hope that makes it clearer.
    I have got to say Sunny.. that all seems quite excessive as it relates to Invisalign. Invisalign is not nearly as high maintenance as you are suggesting.

    Sure you have to take care of your teeth, just as you do with braces or with no orthodontics at all. The reality is though that if you take your Invisalign out to eat and don't put them back in for an hour it does not ruin your treatment.

    The statement that you must wear your aligners 22 hours a day is not a hard fact that came from Invisalign. While my orthodontist suggested 20 hours daily, the Invisalign website says "For the best, quickest results, wear your aligners all day, except when eating, brushing or flossing."

    For any of you that have read my blog will see that while I wear my aligners as much as possible there are times in life you simply cannot keep them in 20 hours a day. Invisalign will still fix your teeth if you have your aligners in for less than 20 hours a day from time to time. In fact, if you read my blog you'll see several instances where I have had them in far less than 20 hours in a day.

    Sunny I understand you are trying to defend metal braces, but please don't try to discredit Invisalign by making it seem more high maintenance than it really is. Yes Invisalign has some cons, but Invisalign is a great alternative to those who do not want metal braces. I did not mean to offend you or those who chose metal braces. I was just expressing my happiness with Invisalign as it relates to my experience.

    Read more on my Invisalign experience in my blog => My Invisalign Blog

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    Sunny I understand you are trying to defend metal braces, but please don't try to discredit Invisalign by making it seem more high maintenance than it really is.
    I have no idea why you think this, as where I work, we have patients who achieve great results with invisalign ... but we make sure they're aware of the need to wear their aligners for the best results and also for the health of their teeth. This health includes not allowing your teeth to be out of aligners for very long, as the roots of teeth can be permanently damaged if they are being forced back and forth due to aligners being in, then out, then in.
    The reality is though that if you take your Invisalign out to eat and don't put them back in for an hour it does not ruin your treatment.
    The reality is ... it can affect your treatment and affect the roots of your teeth. If you are prepared to go with invisalign, you also have to be prepared to make sacrifices. It's a good system ... but it requires much more discipline, as any removable appliance does ... due to the human factor!
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    It is a common misconception that essix retainers are Invisalign. We have patients who ask if they are getting Invisalign as retainers. They look very similar but serve extremely different functions.

    Invisalign is a type of orthodontic treatment to move teeth. If you've had a full course of braces, there would be no need for Invisalign after, since the tooth movement should have been complete. Invisalign-style retainers, or essix retainers are one way of preserving alignment and occlusion after orthodontic care.
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    I'd prefer to have traditional braces to be honest. I don't have any issues with people seeing them, I want straight teeth and that's just part of it I guess.

    The reason I'll probably end up going with Invisalign is because I've found a very good price (I am not aware of traditional braces costing less that 2500??) and a good/recommended Ortho! I actually asked the Ortho whether he could fit me with a traditional brace instead of Invisalign, and he said he no longer provides traditional braces, and now only does Invisalign (but might refer to a fixed brace if the desired results cannot be completed at the end of the Invisalign treatment).

    Unless I was to find a good and highly recommended ortho who still does traditional braces, and for a price of less than 3000 I will continue to 'go with' Invisalign.
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  23. Both conventional braces and invisalign braces take approximately the same treatment time. However, invisalign cannot do more complex tooth movements and therefore not everyone is a candidate for invisalign.

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    My Invisalign treatment took 8 months (no refinements) and am now in Essix ret's. My Ortho told me that had I have chosen fixed braces, it would have taken about 6 months longer and its likely I would have needed extractions!

    I'm glad I chose the Invisalign route, but it's not the right choice for everyone.

  25. My ortho told me that braces may or may not take longer than Invisalign. One can only estimate the treatment time.
    With Invisalign, though, you know the exact time when you're finished. If refinements are not needed that is. :)

  26. I went with Invisalign mostly because I already wore metal braces 10 years ago and failed to keep the retainer on after that (have to mention dentist only gave me a retainer for the upper part and none for the lower - not even a wire!) so unconscious as I was I let time pass and my teeth returned back to their original position (not quite that much as my teeth were really crooked). So I consulted an Ortho/dentist and quoted me 2,500 for a full Invisalign treatment - saying that I was a perfect candidate due to the mild corrections needed.. So now I am half the way and I am really happy with them, although I would agree on the fact that this treatment needs a lot of self-discipline and not everybody is up to it... In my case, having paid that amount of money out of my pocket (first braces as a teen were paid by parents) made me realise I needed to be consistant with wearing the aligners and have a responsibility through it...!!
    And now that I am seeing results and time does not pass that slow I don not regret my decision, and as for the fact they are almost unnoticeable I am really happy indeed as I work in Sales and a clean smile seems to be very important (and charming!!) even with my braces on.. So happy as Larry!




    U - 22/22
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    Now in the 3rd set of refinements

    U - 03/07
    L - 08/08 finished on 1st set of refinements

  27. Metal braces were never an option for me and I was very excited about Invisalign. Had I had it to do over again and metal was an option, metal it would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellina View Post
    ... So I consulted an Ortho/dentist and quoted me 2,500 for a full Invisalign treatment - saying that I was a perfect candidate due to the mild corrections needed...
    Hi Stellina,

    Where on earth in the UK did you find a clinic who can do it for so cheap? So far I have been quoted 4 or 5,000 pounds and I am a relatively straightforward case! I would like to do it for as cheap as possible, obviously, and am a bot hesitant to dish out 5 grand on my teeth... I do have to go with the Invisalign option as I grind/clench my teeth, but I always thought it was waaay more expensive.

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    Which is better is very case dependent. I can usually get a better result faster with braces, but Invisalign is a great option for certain patients, including clenchers and grinders. An orthodontist really has to look at multiple factors to determine what is going to be the best option for a certain patient in a certain situation. drd

  30. Quote Originally Posted by drd View Post
    ... but Invisalign is a great option for certain patients, including clenchers and grinders... drd
    Not sure if I'll get a response 'cause this post is old but.. why is Invisalign great for clenchers and grinders? I do have a bit of a habit of clenching my teeth during the day (something I feel I do more often with my aligners in) and occasionally grind my teeth at night. Did I unknowingly choose a good option for my habits? :P

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    Invisalign protects you from yourself by not allowing your teeth to be damaged from clenching or grinding. It is a simple form of a therapeutic splint. Also, clenchers and grinders really push on the aligners and force the teeth to move into the desired position, so you can often get better movement. DrD

  32. Quote Originally Posted by seoulsmile View Post
    Not sure if I'll get a response 'cause this post is old but.. why is Invisalign great for clenchers and grinders? I do have a bit of a habit of clenching my teeth during the day (something I feel I do more often with my aligners in) and occasionally grind my teeth at night. Did I unknowingly choose a good option for my habits? :P
    as far as I know, Invisalign braces are removable, if you have a habit of clenching your teeth at night, it is better to remove them while you are sleeping. Grinding the teeth can damage the invisalign aligners as well, try to avoid clenching or grinding movement during the day. According to dentists, the success of these very braces depends on how you are committed.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by derek summers View Post
    as far as I know, Invisalign braces are removable, if you have a habit of clenching your teeth at night, it is better to remove them while you are sleeping. Grinding the teeth can damage the invisalign aligners as well, try to avoid clenching or grinding movement during the day. According to dentists, the success of these very braces depends on how you are committed.
    Derek,
    Wearing Invisalign is a full time commitment, one cannot simply remove the trays during the night due to clenching. True, you can chew and damage the trays, which I have done in retaining, but in the two week course of changing out the trays the damage is minimal.
    Using Invisalign as a clencher, the trays act as a nightguard and actually protect the teeth so that's not a bad thing.
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    Invisalign is better than braces for heavy clenchers because the teeth are protected while wearing. Patients can reduce tooth length by grinding while wearing braces. They will also act as tmj splint to a lesser degree. Dr. Todd Dickerson

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    EvaZ ... Stellina's post is nearly a year old ... which may means she won't see this question. There is a thread dedicated to cost, you might find more information by reading that.

    Good luck!
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

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    Hi Everyone, I just had a free assessment done and I was given a quote for tooth-colored (ceramic) braces and Invisalign. The first option is meant to give me better results as I want to push my teeth back a bit as they flare slightly forward, and Invisalign goes more with the "line of best fit" meaning that it straightens your teeth to the average position of where they already are. They will have to file my teeth quite a bit with Invisalign, but they cannot pull any teeth as Invisalign can only do minor corrections and cannot move teeth around as much. With the braces option, I would have to have 4 teeth pulled to make more space to bring the front ones back a bit. Invisalign will last 15 months for me, but, although it will give me straight teeth, will not give me the exact result I am looking for. The quote I got was I think around 4500 pounds. 24 months of ceramic braces will amount to around 3600, but this does not include the cost of pulling teeth which will have to be done at the dentists and will also be pretty pricey I imagine. I will go for one more free assessment at another clinic to compare costs, but have already decided to go with the Invisalign option as I grind my teeth and this option will also help protect them. Then when the treatment is over I will ask for extras of the last set of liners so I can wear them at night.

    I hope this helps. Good luck!

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    There are covers available to use for anybody who grinds with any type of orthodontic product. What's important is to seek an orthodontist's advise while you're in active treatment.

    The most popular removable retainers are clear and similar to invisalign aligners, just a bit stronger. There retainers look after your teeth best when worn nightly, which of course also helps any serious grinders.

    If you grind, it's best to seek help to stop it, rather than mask it. Usually it's related to stress issues, which not only do the obvious damage to teeth, but also risk pushing teeth out of alignment and damaging the muscles and jaw joints. Some people benefit from physio, massage and other techniques that help them relieve stress. There are meds that can help, so make sure you talk to your doctors about these issues.
    After 5 years, 11 months and two days of stainless steel brackets ... my teeth now have upper and lower bonded, gold wire, retainers and removable clear retainers!

  38. Traditional braces are a better option in my case, but I have to live with it now.

    I have just started treatment with invisalign and if I had known what it was like I wouldn’t have bothered.

    I have 40 liners top 20 bottom to correct my overbite and large spacing at the top.

    I opted to keep my own teeth over veneers or crowns but if I had known I think I would have preferred the traditional braces route. They make them very discrete these days and they are not all as bad as the ones shown on the invisalign web site next to their product.

    My experience is after my initial first impression which was its not to bad I now have another opinion after 2 weeks wearing. They do effect your speech and I am very self conscious of them even though my partner says they are barely noticeable. I also work in an environment which doesn’t take many prisoners when it comes to little things like this however no body has commented on them yet (not sure if they have noticed but im seeing how long it will take). My liners are made worse by the attachments which are near the front that if it wasn’t for that they would look quite good, but the attachments do stick out a little and make them more noticeable.

    I really hope things get better and I hope this lisp improves as that makes me sound like even more of an idiot now: )

    I paid 3400 so I am determined to finish but its going to be a very long road. Even the dentist said to me so many people give up half way through he couldn’t understand it after paying all that money. Well I can understand it because its like wearing a couple of little gum shields around all day, in fact this is what they very much feel like.

    Speech can be very difficult at times with them also T’s or anything with T in can be a challenge. Your mouth also gets dry with them in and you lips can stick on them and they feel awful in general.

    I would not recommend I would always go for a brace first. I think ivisalign will get you there but don’t expect it to be easy. I also eat a lot as I do bodybuilding and they are an absolute nightmare as I have to keep removing them all the time to eat then clean my teeth to put them back in. Braces would have been a better option, big expensive mistake but you live and learn.

    I really hope things get better and I hope this lisp improves as that makes me sound like even more of an idiot now: )
    Last edited by westsounds; 02-25-2011 at 10:31 AM. Reason: edit

  39. I think the length of your treatment, whether with metal braces or Invisalign, really just depends on your case. I had metal braces when I was younger and was told I would have them on for 2 years - I had them on for 4. I do not ever want to go through that again.
    Have had tongue thrust appliances, palate expanders, and metal braces from ages 8-17. Now 23 and starting Invisalign! :party:

    2/16U
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    @BTOrtho... Invisalign does not cost more than braces in many offices. It can also be used to correct overbites, but would require a doctor who would know how to use it. When used properly, Invisalign does not compromise the quality of treatment at all, and can actually be a better option.

    @odalisque Unfortunately, Invisalign's marketing of many treatments being completed in 9 months is because a lot doctors are using it for "simple" cases. There are some exceptions where braces may work faster than aligners, but the reverse is also true. Typically, most aligner treatments and braces cases should be completed within about the same time frame.
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  41. I had metal braces when I was younger for 4 years and would never, ever do it again. I was miserable and the orthos kept them on for 2 years longer than they originally said. I had palate expanders and various rubber band placements to fix my underbite & open bite, but once my braces were removed (even though I wore the retainers) my bite reverted back. I got angry and sick of having something in my mouth that made me talk funny (Hawley retainer) so I stopped wearing it (I was 17). I am getting Invisalign soon and am fully prepared for the things that come with it. My doc said that Invisalign won't fix my bite but that's perfectly fine with me as braces seemed to fix it only temporarily and I've learnt to deal with it. This is completely cosmetic for me and I am ready to wear my Invisalign and retainers for the rest of my life!

    As for things I am looking forward to with Invisalign as opposed to metal braces:
    -Being able to floss without using a threading floss.
    -Being able to brush my teeth normally.
    -Being able to eat what I want.
    -Less noticeable than metal braces.
    -More control over my treatment plan - i.e. approving my ClinCheck and approving all steps after that, rather than having an ortho glue brackets on my teeth and refusing to remove them just because one back molar is not perfectly straight.

    I was not quoted a price for metal braces when I got my Invisalign quote as that was never an option for me, so I can't comment on that aspect.
    Have had tongue thrust appliances, palate expanders, and metal braces from ages 8-17. Now 23 and starting Invisalign! :party:

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    Invisalign vs braces

    Hi Davidsg,

    Invisalign is shorter (and arguably less painful) but it only does minor corrections. I am just finishing my treatment and did not mind having the aligners. I would never get braces but then again my teeth were not too crooked. Most good orthodontists recommend regular braces for better results, but this is the lazy person's expidited way of getting similar results. So if you have braces be happy with them as it is the best treatment you can get.

    Eva

    Quote Originally Posted by davidsg View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    I had my braces on two months ago and just hope to expedite my treatment.

    I saw Invisalign and regretted of having braces. Just to check with everyone out there.

    Is there any results difference between Invisalign and Tradition braces after the treatment?

    The straightened teeth looked the same??? As i saw people after Braces, their teeth look very nice, neat and straight well as for invisalign that i saw through the Internet is not as nice.

    Which treatment is longer???

    Can any kind soul please advise me.

    :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvaZ View Post
    Hi Davidsg,

    Invisalign is shorter (and arguably less painful) but it only does minor corrections. I am just finishing my treatment and did not mind having the aligners. I would never get braces but then again my teeth were not too crooked. Most good orthodontists recommend regular braces for better results, but this is the lazy person's expidited way of getting similar results. So if you have braces be happy with them as it is the best treatment you can get.

    Eva

    Quote Originally Posted by Clearbraces View Post
    I considered invisalign but my orthodontist felt ceramic was better especially for a good finish. He also suggested the simpliclear wire with the clear beakers and looks amazing. Really hard to see.
    This is quite inaccurate. The information about the average treatment time with Invisalign is misleading because most doctors only do use it to correct minor issues. Since the problems are not as big, the treatment takes less time. To say that good orthodontists recommend regular braces over Invisalign for better results is also inaccurate. There are several treatments that work far better with aligners than with braces. Ultimately, it is going to depend on the skill of the doctor to produce the results. Both aligners and braces are simply tools to make the teeth straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenman View Post
    As an adult, like many, I wouldn't get braces...but I would get Invisalign. I don't care that it costs more.
    Many adults definitely do not want to show anything while getting their teeth straightened. While it does take the discipline to wear the aligners and take care of them, this is usually not an hindrance for those focused on getting straight teeth without braces. In some offices, there is no additional cost for Invisalign compared to braces, so this is something to keep in mind.
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  44. I considered invisalign but my orthodontist felt ceramic was better especially for a good finish. He also suggested the simpliclear wire with the clear beakers and looks amazing. Really hard to see.

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    As an adult, like many, I wouldn't get braces...but I would get Invisalign. I don't care that it costs more.
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  46. My bite was not corrected with Invisalign (the first time)

    I'm currently wearing Invisalign for the second time because my first experience was not successful (even though I wore them the required amount of time, etc). I had moderate bite problems (partial cross-bite on one side) and with hindsight being 20/20, I feel that I would have been much better off wearing braces. Yes, I'm sure that there are some orthodontists around who can effectively fix bite problems (like hopefully my current one, touch wood!!) but I kinda wish I'd just gotten traditional braces from the beginning and then I'd be all done with it all by now. My teeth were reasonably straight from the front after finishing the first Invisalign treatment but I started it again because I wanted the bite fixed (you can read all about it in my blog, if you're interested). This time around I picked a more experienced ortho, so hopefully we'll get a satisfactory result with Invisalign this time.

    P.S. For the people commenting about the cost, it was roughly the same as braces for me. I guess it depends on the ortho - some of them might even prefer to work with Invisalign.

  47. #47
    I had my consultation a few weeks back, and my ortho recommended that I do a combination treatment of braces & invisalign-which cost a little more money. Anyone else had a combination treatment?

  48. My teenage daughter and I are going through this together...she has traditional braces and I opted for Invisalign. She was given the choice. I have to say...she'd never make it with these. I wouldn't recommend them for young teens. I'm not a big snacker, so the fact that these have to stay in for approx. 22 hours is not a big deal, but having to bite the bullet and brush my teeth in random places just grosses her out. I find myself skipping a snack because i don't want to have to brush my teeth. I like the forced diet aspect of these!

  49. My recently did Invisalign with Dentzz dental in Delhi. Earlier we were a bit confused whether to go with traditional braces or invisalign. We did lot of research, we visited dentzz review blog, wherein patients have shared their experience on braces. So that is where we found the pros and cons of invisalign and then finalised on that.

  50. Tried Invisalign and it is good.

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